Grey’s Anatomy’s Sara Ramirez: Callie/Arizona Are ‘Back to Step 1’ After ‘Devastating’ Showdown
For Grey’s Anatomy‘s Callie and Arizona, last season marked 23 steps forward and then one huge step back.
Yes, the forever-tested twosome gradually found their footing after Callie ignored Arizona’s wishes and amputated one of her wife’s legs in the wake of the plane crash. But then in the season finale, everything the couple built came crashing down when Arizona’s impetuous indiscretion with Dr. Lauren Boswell was outed.
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“It was just devastating. Heartbreaking,” Sara Ramirez recalls of the gut-punch Callie sustained. “I mean, it’s everything you don’t want to have happen, for anyone.” (Revisit Arizona’s outburst scene, then read on.)
Adding insult to emotional injury: For Callie, this was the second time someone she was wed to cheated on her. (Thanks, George! Oh, and R.I.P.) As such, series creator Shonda Rhimes says, “Callie has got some stuff to deal with” — as does her Mrs. “Arizona’s not necessarily holding a grudge because Callie cut off her leg; that’s not really what it’s about,” Rhimes teases. “She got over [that] and sort of moved on, but never dealt with any of the underlying issues. There has to be something else going on there.”
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While you mull that mystery, here’s what we do know: As Season 10 opens (with a two-hour premiere airing Sept. 26), barely any time has passed since the events of the superstorm-soaked finale, and the doctors of Grey+Sloan Memorial are now receiving the casualties of a resultant mudslide. And that’s on top of the assorted emotional storms still brewing indoors.
“Callie’s reeling from hearing that her wife is still very, very angry and hurt,” Ramirez shares. “So essentially they regress back to Step 1, to where they started in Season 9. It’s like, ‘Ugh, we’re back at the beginning,’ so there is a lot of work that needs to be done.”
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But while these two doctors can work miracles reassembling bone or repairing tiny humans, Ramirez is uncertain if they have what it takes to recuperate from this double whammy of infidelity and resurfaced resentment.
“We’re going to see in the first few episodes Callie being reactive and acting out, dealing with her own feelings about what’s happening,” Ramirez says. And she won’t necessarily leave this volatile matter behind closed on-call room doors.
“Callie doesn’t hide it from the hospital, how she’s feeling,” Ramirez reveals with a small chuckle. “No, she lets it be known!”
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So, sounds like I’m gonna skip the first few episodes. Maybe the season.
God bless this website and this scoop.
Dump her, Callie! Arizona has done nothing but whine and be full of self-pity since she’s been on the show. Now she’s cheated and doesn’t even seem to take responsiblity for it or feel bad about it. Dump her. There’s somebody better out there. Probably lots of somebodies.
I agree I think Arizona has been selfish for a long time now and has yet to show Callie – love the only one that ever cared for Callie was Mark and sadly he died!
I hate, hate this comment. Because I want Callie and Arizona to ultimately be that happy, passionate, loving couple we have been waiting for them to become. But most of all, I hate this comment because its true. No one has ever loved, protected and understood Callie like Mark. No one.
Don’t you think Callie’s approach to Arizona’s trauma has been nothing sort of selfish though? Remember when she complained about not having any sex “because of the damn leg”? I get that she was coping with losing Mark but she was a horrible spouse at times during Arizona’s grief and trauma.
Which, by the way, only got to see a couple of episodes in the perspective of *Arizona* – the rest was always about how *Callie* reacted and felt.
AGREED.
Also, Calzona is endgame.
Disagree. By the time Callie had reached that point it had been months that she had been dealing with Arizona. Callie followed Arizona’s cue and tried to give her what she needed whether it was a push, time, support or space. Arizona shut Callie out of the process and after a while it wore her out. By her own admission Arizona was selfish. And she asked Callie to never leave her even though she knew Callie was suffering. And Callie complied. But I understand if you or any other Arizona fans feel the need to justify her actions.
Callie is a pushover and everyone knows it. She pushed Arizona to get back to who she was, to what they were, way too hard. She pushed Arizona to buy the hospital, because she felt responsible for the hospital falling apart. She didn’t hear when her wife was telling her to move into another city and buy a house. She wanted to do things her way, and that’s how it’s always been. Arizona has always managed to adapt to Callie’s wishes. I’m not justifying the cheating, just saying that it took 3 to this tango. For god sake, Callie didn’t manage to see that Arizona is not Arizona anymore. Arizona tried to hide the phantom limb from Callie so hard, because Callie needed her wife back. The cheating, the leg issue is just the beginning, I think that we’ll get to see what it really is about in S10. IMO if Callie wants to act like a victim again, it would be boring seeing the same thing over and over again. Because Callie did loose Arizona, and she didn’t notice it. Maybe now, that she finally realized it, she will grow up and fight for a person in her life for the first time since she came to GA.
Yeah, it’s mainly Callie’s perspective, but only because she’s the one that’s always “the victim” and the one that’s always complaining about something. Arizona is the one who tries to push her feelings and needs aside, in order to please the person she loves. I think many of those unresolved and hidden issues and feelings will somehow resurface in season 10. I truly do hope, that Shonda will manage to bring back Arizona’s popularity back, and have people understand that, as you already said, we’ve been, all along, actually seeing Callie’s perspective. Arizona is such a complex character, and Callie has always been the one with needs, the one who needed someone to fight for her, someone to apologize to her.. It’s about time for her to grow up and decide what kind of person she wants to be. Because, she did get cheated twice, while married.. This is GA, and she’s the only character who got cheated on twice in marriage.
I believe you are using the word ‘pushover’ out of context. And, from the 2nd episode she told Owen “that is not my wife.” She was very much aware of Arizona’s void and transformation. She coped with it by being supportive and giving her wife what she needed. From the first episode Callie knew she was losing Arizona and she did what every loving spouse would do, she tried to save her marriage. And there’s nothing wrong with Arizona wanting to be the wife Callie needed her to be. That desire compelled her to fight to become whole. And the thing about moving, please. That lasted for a second and it was only because they thought they had lost the hospital. It wasn’t because Arizona wanted to move. And while Callie fought to save the hospital, it was Arizona that called that meeting in the rain and said they had to do it because they were about to lose Bailey. But again, I understand that these facts are hard to accept. You don’t like Callie. I get it. Everybody roots for the character they like the most. There’s no need to justify that position.
@Babygate – It’s not that I don’t like Callie, I just think that it wasn’t all Arizona’s fault. And it’s the scenes that last 5 seconds, like the one with Arizona saying that she wants to move, that matter too. I completely agree with you, that Callie was nothing but a supportive and loving spouse at the beginning, in fact, she was close to the perfect wife. She knew that she may loose her wife forever, and was ready to fight for her. I get that, and I like Callie for that. And no matter what happens to Calzona, I will always remember the “shower scene”, cause it always gives me chills. But as you said, Arizona did try her best to be whole again, simply because she loves Callie. She and Callie rushed things and got where they are now. Whether it’s PTSD or not, Callie is supposed to know her wife better, then to think that things can recover so quickly, after those dark and horrible months. And as for Arizona, she did try to become whole again, but can a person with missing limb ever feel really whole again, or at least mentally whole so soon? Arizona did call the meeting in the rain, and finally agreed to do what Callie wanted and pushed for all along. But then again, was she really ready to do something like that? Was there ever in the 9th season time when Arizona was herself, when her resonating wasn’t clouded and odd? There were few moments when we saw the old Arizona, but those were only hints of a forgotten character. I like Calzona, and I really think that both of them messed things up badly. And I think that both actresses are great, and will give us many chilling scenes, again and again. I really hope, that will see happy Calzona though. And yes, I am Team Arizona, if I have to choose :)
I agree with you. And for those new interviews, it seems like season 10 will be in Callie’s perspective again. Some people think that is more painful to be without sex for months, than living without a leg for life. Why? because Is always about Callie’s perspective.
(Sorry for my english)
Cheers :)
Yeah, it’s mainly Callie’s perspective, but only because she’s the one that’s always “the victim” and the one that’s always complaining about something. Arizona is the one who tries to push her feelings and needs aside, in order to please the person she loves. I think many of those unresolved and hidden issues and feelings will somehow resurface in season 10. I truly do hope, that Shonda will manage to bring back Arizona’s popularity back, and have people understand that, as you already said, we’ve been, all along, actually seeing Callie’s perspective. Arizona is such a complex character, and Callie has always been the one with needs, the one who needed someone to fight for her, someone to apologize to her.. It’s about time for her to grow up and decide what kind of person she wants to be. Because, she did get cheated twice, while married.. This is GA, and she’s the only character who got cheated on twice in marriage.
This! Callie needs to move on. I never ever EVER liked them together. They feel forced. Callie needs a super sexy man in her life!
“They feel forced” clearly we’re not watching the same show. The chemistry between Callie and Arizona is more real than any man can give. I think somehow they will bounce back from this drama, they belong together
Team Callie.
I think a single Callie would be really fun this season. The show has gotten too coupley and I think it would be wise for the producers to shake things up.
Unpopular opinion, but I really liked Lauren Boswell and hope she sticks around. Yes cheating is terrible/getting cheated on sucks, but I never found the relationship of Callie & Arizona interesting prior to Lauren showing up.
Also, no offense to anyone, but Arizona and Lauren have way more chemistry than Arizona and Callie. Arizona is much more compelling around Lauren and it would be a waste not to explore that.
Same.
To be honest … yeah. I’ve never had anything against Callie/Arizona, but the chemistry between Arizona and Lauren was off the charts.
I do feel bad for Callie, though. Girl’s been through the ringer more than once.
Preach.
I agree that Arizona and Lauren had more chemistry than Callie and Arizona ever had. But in my book, that’s not a good thing. I think this was an actor’s choice in the way Jessica Capshaw chose to play Arizona’s attraction to Lauren. Unfortunately, she never exercised the same choice in showing how Arizona felt about her own wife. Imo, what Arizona did cannot be undone. Not only the deeply disturbing things she said, but how attracted she felt to Boswell. So, while I would not advocate for it, I’m ok with Arizona riding off into the sunset with Lauren. As long as they do it as far away from Seattle as possible and we never have to see them again. But I doubt that will happen because Lauren is an amoral predator and Arizona would never trust her.
“I agree that Arizona and Lauren had more chemistry than Callie and Arizona ever had. But in my book, that’s not a good thing. I think this was an actor’s choice in the way Jessica Capshaw chose to play Arizona’s attraction to Lauren.”
Hmm, I don’t know. You make it sound like Jessica Capshaw has been “holding back” (or something) for the entirety of their onscreen relationship, but I think it’s just a matter of “clicking” better with another scene partner.
Also it helps that Hilarie Burton is SELLLLLING IT. If I didn’t know any better I’d think she was legit into Jessica :D, but I guess it just comes down to convincing acting. Callie and Arizona were never convincingly that into each other, IMO.
I agree that Sara and JCap have never been able to fully sell the idea of Callie and Arizona being a romantic couple. They clearly have a lot of affection for each other but there isn’t a noticeable romantic or sexual chemistry. At least, not since Season 6. But, there are things that they can do apart from each other. for example, how they look at the other. Arizona has never given Callie a look of desire, yet, on the episode when Lauren was introduced, Arizona was standing behind her checking out her butt. And she was clearly distracted when Boswell was around, again, JCap never played Arizona that way in relation to Callie. In S8 when Callie walked into their apartment and took off her top with the intention of having make up sex with her wife, Arizona didn’t so much as glanced at Callie’s body while Sara/Callie on multiple occasions checks out Arizona’s chest and butt. Just saying’. To be fair though, Hilarie did talk about the amazing chemistry that she and JCap had. Something that clearly translated into the screen for them.
Yeah, you make a valid point. Throughout Arizona and Callie’s romantic interactions there was never really that spark on Arizona’s end. But I guess the attraction believability depends on how comfortable or connected the actors feel with each other. And I don’t mean to imply anything bad by that, Sara herself had better chemistry with Eric Dane. So it just so happens the person introduced for Arizona to cheat with has really good chemistry with her. Can’t fault anyone for that, and it makes good TV.
Though I will say if Callie and Arizona split (which they should imo), and they add someone new for Callie, they need to screen test/cast an actress that has the same kind of palpable chemistry for Sara.
@Tav
OMG! It’s like you read my mind! As I’m reading all the news coming out of the TCA I’m getting the sense that Callie is going to be involved with someone, probably just for the sake of getting distracted, nothing serious. And immediately I thought, they need to screen test that person with Sara. JCap was not brought on to the show to be Callie’s love interest. She was supposed to have a three season arc dealing exclusively with a medical issue. Shonda decided to keep JCap but I think that if she would have screen tested them before she would have realized the chemistry wasn’t there. I think IRL they really respect each other but I don’t think they are friends. Sara did have great chemistry with Eric because they were friends or at least very friendly off camera. She also looked very natural with George but she loved T.R. before she even came on the show. Same with Brooke Smith. Although apparently ABC thought she wasn’t attractive enough to be Callie’s love interest, the actresses looked very comfortable and natural around each other. Whereas Arizona barely touches Callie and every time Callie touches Arizona it feels rehearsed and very choreographed. As of now, I’m still rooting for Calzona to be end game, but if someone comes along that Sara has chemistry with, Arizona can go back to Lauren and they can both be happy without each other because everything else aside, I honestly don’t know how anyone can get over the horribly cruel things that Arizona hurled at Callie.
This is a comment to your post about JCap not coming to the show to be Callie’s girlfriend. That is true, Shonda actually kept her because of her off screen chemistry with Sara.
@Ellen
You said it: “off screen chemistry”. I doubt they were screen tested. If memory serves correctly, they were joking and laughing onset, not making out and that’s a huge difference. They may have looked like they hit it off, that by no means is an indication that they could play romantic interests for each other. On screen, they seem to be very fond of each other and they do give each other very loving looks. But that chemistry is not necessarily romantic.They have often come across as sisters or friends more than partners. To be fair though, although they were never overly physical with each other, I do believe that they had better romantic chemistry during seasons 5 and 6. I have no idea what happened after that but the shower scenes, the on-call room scenes, the stolen kisses on a stairwell…that was all gone.
I agree with you, I was only pointing out why they kept her. I think their “romantic” scenes are best when they are sad (the “don”t”-scene in bed, first break up scene, and elevator scene after break up). They have chemistry then, but the “sexy times”, not so much. But that does not mean I don’t want them to stay together.
I don’t feel Jessica Capshaw has been holding back the whole time on GA just after the fans embraced Callie and Arizona as a couple (can you say signed contract) did I think she pulled back. When I watch the scenes with Hilarie Burton I feel it is Burton who is taking charge over the scenes and how it’s going to play out that makes the attraction. But if Burton does stick around it won’t be long before Capshaw fizzle out that pairing as well.
Also feel that the whole Callie side all season I don’t get. To me the writer’s made two sides. One from Callie’s point of view and one from Arizona’s view. Then tried to bring the story together in the end and it almost came together when out of nowhere we are hit with this cheating crap.
I like both Sara Ramirez and Jessica Capshaw they are great actor’s but it would be ok with me if the character’s went their separate ways and Callie found someone woman or man who really loved her for who she is.
I was hoping that Callie dint make a scene with the whole hospital. She already did that with George. I was hoping that she would be able to internalise it much like Cristina did and deal with it that way. idk would have like that type of maturity….
I see custody battle for sure!
No custody battle to have. Sophia is Mark and Callie’s biological child. Arizona has no biological or legal claim to her.
No technical battle but will kinda make Callie look like a monster for keeping her away from Sofia… Yea even though Az cheated…
I’m pretty sure Arizona adopted Sophia at some point. I remember there was a scene before Mark’s death when AZ complained that she had no claim to Sophia and she asked for a legal document that gave her parental rights. Callie then promised she would get her such a document. It was never mentioned again, but since Mark is now dead and C&A are married and raising Sophia together, we can easily assume AZ has parental rights too. But since she has no biological ties to Sophia, Callie would probably win any custody battle anyway.
Back in S8 Callie agreed to sign papers for Arizona to have legal rights to Sofia. Besides, Callie had never treated Arizona as anything less than a parent to their baby. She was.willing to have Mark be only an uncle but she wanted to parent with Arizona. I doubt that Callie will try to deny Arizona access to Sofia because while Callie is a very passionate and impulsive, she’s also fair.
she does actually. They signed some sort of legal document as other’s have stated. So Arizona is her adoptive mother and has a right to at least partial custody or visitations. I think it would be interested to explore this angle actually. Have them in a custody dispute while still having to work and parent together. they haven’t done that storyline before.
I cannot stand Arizona! She has been annoying since the day she came on the show! The lesbian marriage doesn’t bother me at all but I just can’t grasp why Callie would want her whiny behind!! I’ve never been fully onboard with Callie being gay since she was crazy about George and very much enjoyed sex with Mark, then all of a sudden had the hots for Hahn. Just too forced. Give Arizona a blood infection or something and kill her off. I’d be very happy with that!
Lol, aren’t you a ray of sunshine.
Just the character…nothing against Jessica Capshaw. Arizona has never been one of my favorites if you couldn’t tell…lol.
Yeah, Callie’s bisexuality came out of nowhere and felt a bit forced. It was like “oh, Isaiah Washington was a homophobic jerk? quick, let’s write in some gay characters so that the gay people out there won’t stop watching the show!” Anyway, like others said, AZ has more chemistry with Lauren than with Callie. I wish they just broke up already and Callie found someone less shallow and self-centered.
Callie had the best chemistry with Mark. The ”chemistry” between Calzona is too forced and most of the time they acted like friends than spouses.
Could not agree more. Callie and Arizona have zero chemistry. And Sara Ramirez’s acting was terrible most of Season 9. Callie seemed like a complete phony. She was back to her old self by the end of the season though, to my delight. Callie and Mark had perfect chemistry. And Callie and Erica had much better chemistry than Calzona, as do Lauren and Arizona. I hope Calzona are done for good in Season 10 and Callie returns to men. I also want Lauren to return to the show for Arizona.
While I came to accept Callie’s bisexuality a while ago, I too found it a bit forced. I understood the attraction to Hahn and that sort of experimentation she was doing with her because she was so hurt by her marriage with George, but then the flip-flopping back and forth was just a little weird. I, personally have always thought that she had amazing chemistry with Mark and that Mark and Callie were better than the whole Mark and Lexie drama.
She did not cut off her leg she saved her life !
Arizona took a cheap shot at her , because she didn’t want to take responsibility for her actions !
She saved her life, and she also DID cut her leg! :) But I don’t think that the leg is the big issue here. I think that the leg is just a portal, that will take us to the real stuff that bother Arizona, and therefore Calzona. They have many unresolved issues, cause they went through every problem with lighting speed, but only because they love each other so much. At this point i really don’t know how things will resolve for the two of them, maybe they’ll separate, and start dating other. However, I do believe that Calzona is an end game
Ehm not so sure about the endgame…read THR’s Rhimes article. She talks about lesbian divorce and 2 major lesbian relationships on network tv… So endgame questionable….. Rhimes is also cryptic about why Az cheated…. It’s not the leg Az apparently got over that….it’s something more…. Who knows….. I say prepare for the worst…..
Prepare for the worst indeed. She will tear them apart, she will probably have them date other people. But they have a huge fan base, probably the biggest on GA. IMO the whole more than one major gay relationship is just part of the journey. Cause I get the feeling that she really wants to make them even more complex (as if they weren’t till now) and make their fans suffer, but in the end she always knows how to appreciate fans and give them what they want. She just wants to make sure the fans have earned it. I still thing that Calzona is endgame, but then again I might be wrong. However, I expect it to be interesting, to see how thing develop.
Unfortunately I bet you’re right. I think by the end of season 10 we will have had no happy Calzona times and I bet even in the finale we’ll be left wondering, probably pretty hopelessly, if Calzona will ever get back together again. Though we’ll probably have a ton of insight as to why the cheating happened and we’ll have probably seen some pretty epic arguments between the two, I’m not expecting a happy ending. I can certainly hope for one though…
I can agree with you on that. It will be interesting but how will she give them the required screen time to do all of this is what I do not get! Coz interns are being made ‘fabric of the hospital’ so for some weird reason am not holding on to much hope… Redeeming Az’s character will take a lot then add to the fact that Burton may be back later in the season…. Eh…
To all the people that think Laurzona had major chemistry I agree…. But y not look at the beginning of Calzona’s relationship or even S8…. S9 was set up for things to look off, it was all building up to something…..
I don’t think that the new interns will have drastically more screen time, than before. Although, I agree that we need and we want more Clazona screen time. I guess Shonda will manage to tell the story as she did it before, with minimal screen time and awesome acting from both of them. I guess she needed to get new interns, cause some of the old (original) cast may be leaving after season 10. And @Real Talk – i really too do hope for a happy Calzona ending, with a, as you said, epic arguments and fights in between, but also the known loving looks :)
Arizona sucks, she’s selfish and I just can’t stand her since the start with that too forced smile. I love Callie when she’s away from her so a single Callie in season 10 would be great to see.
Hmm, let’s see….
*Arizona saw Callie looking upset in the bar, and followed her to cheer her up: SELFISH
*Arizona agreed to stay in when Callie could not afford to go out: SELFISH
*Arizona stood up to Callie’s dad when he cut her off: SELFISH
*Arizona brought Callie donuts to cheer her up when George died: SELFISH
*Arizona made Callie see that she did not want Izzie to die, but was in fact praying for her
to live when they were in the chapel: SELFISH
*Arizona did not like Mark, but suck it up and made friends with him because she loved
Callie: SELFISH
*Arizona finally agreed to have kids with Callie because she loved her so much: SELFISH
*Arizona loved Callie enough to let her go when she went to Africa, because she knew Callie
would be miserable there: SELFISH
*Arizona came back, and accepted MARK’s kid: SELFISH
Yeah, I can totally see why people think Arizona is selfish. NOT
I don’t know you Ellen, but Amen sister :) and I’m sure there are hundreds more examples like the ones you mentioned
Ellen from Norway here, Nice to meet you sister :-)
Nice to meet you too, actually it is a pleasure to finally find someone who actually gets things, and it’s not stuck solely on the infidelity.
Thank you for this!! Now I love you :P
You’re welcome, and thank you! :-) I really think that Arizona needs some support. Not that I agree with what she did, but I don’t think Shonda knows the damage she’s done with this BS story line. I find it strange that people does not see that this is not the real Arizona, she’s totally not herself. The real Arizona would NEVER cheat. And people are so angry at Arizona, saying she has to leave because she cheated. Well, if cheating is the reason for characters to leave the show, there would hardly be anyone left. It’s not like she’s the only one that has cheated. And still, I have not seen this strong reaction to any of the other character’s cheating. Maybe it’s because it was just so unbelievable for Arizona to do it……..
It’s not simply because it’s not her style to cheat, but because it happened so late in their relationship. They’ve been through everything, and there was never anything that may lead us even close to one of them cheating. People are mainly taking Callie’s side because she stayed by Arizona when she was yelling at her and ignoring her, but that is just a part of the whole Calzona puzzle. However, I really don’t know how will Shonda repair the damage she had done to Arizona’s character, but she sure will try. I mean the woman made us fall in love with Addison, after the entrance she had in the series. I have no idea, what will it take to make people like Arizona again, but it should be a nice ride. I guess will have to wait to season 10 finale, to actually see where Calzona stands.
I personally think it’s in Arizona’s very nature to cheat because she always came across to me as the type of person who will screw you over big time if you screw her, but that may be just me.
@Nadica we never saw Addison while the cheating was happening….I am sure if Mark came in for 3 episodes and Addy cheated with him, she would be as hated coz by then I would also reckon that people would be invested in Addison and Derek as a couple….so thr in lies the difference where the cheating is concerned….
yea she was hated by Merder fans but they showed Addy as some1 who was sorry and wanted to try to save her marriage….you felt for her….and blamed her….as weird as that sounds….
whereas LB came out looking like she dint care who or what she was doing…not saying Az is not at fault, it was her decision but Idk, I am not sure how many people would actively chase a woman who is married and has a kid and who you have know for a few days…. Just saying….
Also they are going to milk this story all season long….plus everyone that is talking chemistry….season 9 was supposed to look off between Callie and Arizona…. Where as in S7 n S8 JCap was preggers….eh maybe that’s why the chemistry fizzled and also they dint try like the direction was off… Just saying…..
Can I get an ‘amen!’
Lol. This sounds so much like when people were sure that Lauren wasn’t real because Arizona couldn’t possibly cheat. Arizona followed Callie into the bathroom because she wanted to hit on her. She brought her donuts because that’s how SHE, Arizona, coped with loss and because they were dating. There is nothing particularly heroic or unselfish about that or most of the instances you cite for that matter. The most unselfish thing Arizona did and for which I give her credit, was accepting Mark in her life. That was huge. But accepting the pregnancy? No. She did not leave Callie at that airport because she was unselfish. Quite the contrary. Callie was ‘ruining Africa’ for her so she cut her off. THAT was incredibly selfish. And when she came back it was because SHE missed Callie. Not because she had an epiphany and realized she had been a douchebag at the airport. And although it was understandable that she was upset about the pregnancy, she had no right to judge Callie for it. Like when Mer was sleeping around after Derek decided to go back to Addison. But Arizona’s ultimate act of selfishness was begging Callie not to leave her when she knew Callie was hurting only to break her by cheating. I don’t think that Arizona is more selfish than the average person. But neither do I agree with the idea that she’s this unselfish, prodigious victim who has just been ‘suffering’ through Callie’s neglect and/or abuse. Just keeping it real…
I have never been so happy to read a comment from someone else who clearly just gets it, you know what I mean? Callie must be getting lonely up on that pedestal everyone seems to have put her own, heaven forbid (excuse the term) Callie ever do anything wrong, like ever!
Yeah, it has always been Arizona supporting Callie. Don’t think I’ve seen the other way around until the Nick story line. I’ve just re-watched season 9 up until Bailey’s wedding, and now that I know the end of the season, I’m really sad about how Callie has been putting pressure on Arizona. Some of the things Callie said, hurt her a lot. In my opinion, Arizona is not mad at Callie for saving her life. She is mad because Callie promised not to cut it of,. And she really believed her, because she is, after all, an “ortho God”. Was it right of her to make Callie promise? No, but she was desperate. Just like Callie was desperate to comfort her wife by promising. I could be wrong ofcourse, but these are my thoughts anyway……..
Just to be clear, I like Callie very much, and really hope they work things out, and stay together.
*Arizona saw Callie looking upset in the bar, and followed her to cheer her up: SELFISH – Then decided she could be with her because she was in the first stages of liking women.
*Arizona agreed to stay in when Callie could not afford to go out: SELFISH – but first whined about Callie having a bad attitude and acting weird after the date.
*Arizona stood up to Callie’s dad when he cut her off: SELFISH – No she didn’t, she said she was raised to be the “good man in a storm”, so she didn’t stand up to him, just told him she was a good person… whiny and self-centered, but good.
*Arizona brought Callie donuts to cheer her up when George died: SELFISH – Ok, so she brought donuts… yay for her. An act of kindness does not erase the whiny…
*Arizona made Callie see that she did not want Izzie to die, but was in fact praying for her
to live when they were in the chapel: SELFISH – Anyone could have done that, heck, even Christina would have done it… in a total get-your-ass-out-here kinda way
*Arizona did not like Mark, but suck it up and made friends with him because she loved
Callie: SELFISH – She did NOT suck it up, she did not make friends with him, until AFTER Callie was pregnant… let’s keep our timeline straight
*Arizona finally agreed to have kids with Callie because she loved her so much: SELFISH – Arizona did not agree to have kids… she showed up when Callie was already pregnant. She wanted Callie, so she had to want the baby too… Granted, she fell in love with the baby as well, but that came after.
*Arizona loved Callie enough to let her go when she went to Africa, because she knew Callie
would be miserable there: SELFISH – Let’s keep this straight… she did NOT let Callie go… She DUMPED her at the boarding line in the airport… I don’t remember her apologizing… Yeah, maybe Callie complained, but who wouldn’t? Besides, Arizona couldn’t hack it out there anyway, so she basically dumped her because she was upset… Stupid
*Arizona came back, and accepted MARK’s kid: SELFISH – Yes, she accepted Mark’s baby, but let’s remember that she did that because she wanted Callie back… It was a package deal… that she fell in love with the baby and became a mom was only expected.
Yeah, I can totally see why people think Arizona is selfish. NOT – Maybe not as much selfish as she is self-centered. Let’s not forget that it was her temper tantrum that got them into that accident that almost killed Callie and Sofia, because Callie was texting Mark…
Preach!!
Bring back Lauren.
WTH?? I thought Arizona’s cheating was all about the leg! And now it’s not??
Whatever… it’s Grey’s, so the lack of continuity should not suprise me anymore…
Even though I know it’s her show, I kind of disagree with what Shonda said as well about Arizona’s not holding a grudge. I definitely think it’s still about the leg. Remember in the finale when Arizona said: “Stick out your leg and let me get a bone saw so we can even the score”. She definitely hasn’t gotten over it completely because she uses it constantly as an excuse to hurt and put Callie down. She may have gotten over it in terms of just trying to move on with her life and get back to work, but she is definitely holding a grudge IMO and that fight in the finale definitely proved it.
Thanks for the warning. What else is on in that time slot?
Matt, did you happen to get any scoop on Alex and Jo? I know I saw you tweet to Camilla. Just wondering :)
I spoke to Sara, Camilla, Kevin McKidd and Sarah Drew.
Great, thank you
Oh yay, another Calzona season. I’m so excited…. Wonder what else airs at that time of night on Thursday…
If the five minutes that Callie and Arizona combined get an episode is too offensive or distracting for you, there is Glee on Fox and CBS has that new comedy with Robin Williams on at the same time. And cable also offers a variety of options.
It kind of bugs me when people say Callie was the selfish one. Honestly, I think they were both selfish at some point. Callie tried to be there for Arizona while she coped with losing her best friend but Arizona pushed her away. Arizona never really asked how Callie was because “she wasn’t there.” The fact that she want there doesn’t mean it didn’t affect her. It obviously did, it affected her while relationship with Arizona. Callie pushed Arizona but it wasn’t always for the bad. (Bailey’s wedding episode) I felt like Arizona wanted to blame everything that went wrong on Callie, like she is doing with the cheating. It can be seen as Callie’s fault just the way it can be seen as Arizona’s. Honestly they never really got to talk about any of it S9… Part of me wants them to work things out but the other party out me just wants them to go there separate ways.
It bugs me too that people even attempt to paint Callie as the selfish one when Arizona refused to acknowledge that Callie had experienced any kind of loss as a result of the crash. As a matter of fact, she insisted that Callie desist from claiming any loss. Callie gave Arizona every thing she needed and she took it when Arizona would verbally abuse her to the point of calling Sofia “your daughter”. Callie never held that against her wife. She just stood there and even when she felt close to her breaking point, she didn’t leave. I hate the whole cheating storyline as much as anyone else but to try to blame Callie for it by calling her selfish and thus immunizing Arizona reeks of desperation to me. Moreover, the facts and history do not support that assertion, at all.
Team Calzona all the way! I thought they were really fun in the beginning, and I would love to see them get back to that place together. I believe there is a lot of work to be done, but that will make them stronger.
I hope you’re right!
Yaay! To team Calzona. I love them too and really hope they bounce back from this, they need lots and lots of therapy
the love between callie and arizona is very very strong i mean look how many times they’ve broken up and at the end of the day they got married so hopfully they’ll forgive one another for everything and get back together because i believe in them
You know what I’d really love – some Arizona centric scoop, I would say pretty much 9 times out of 10 any Calzona scoop we get is Callie centric. I actually get that Arizona’s cheating isn’t fully about the leg. Let us be honest here, and I’m not a Callie hater, I do really like her too but Arizona is the one who has made the most sacrifices for their relationship, always trying her best even if she did fail sometimes, to be what Callie wanted / needed. If you actually look back to when Arizona came to where she is now, so much about her has changed in both good and bad ways, and for once I’d like to see Shonda explore that. A storyline that should of been Arizona centric – i.e losing her leg, we got a couple episodes and the rest was all about Callie yet again, then Shonda makes Arizona do something shocking at the end of the season and suddenly Arizona is hated and been seen as some kind of pariah.
It’s “tiny humans”. Not little humans….. That was one of the first lines Arazona ever said to Kerev
Okie dokes!
Actually, it’s Karev, not Kerev. Sorry, couldn’t help myself…
And it’s Arizona, not Arazona :-)
Wasn’t AZ talking to Callie about something while walking down the hall in the finale and Callie totally interrupted her to say something else….I think that was telling in how Callie is a little selfish…does not excuse the cheating, but an example of it’s all Callie ….
“Callie doesn’t hide it from the hospital, how she’s feeling,” Ramirez reveals with a small chuckle. “No, she lets it be known!” –> LMAO this is why I love Callie. This should definitely be entertaining.
Bring back Hahn.
Sara and JCap had intense chemistry is season 6. I don’t know what the freak happened after that. I’m just happy I got Laura Prepon and Taylor Schilling intensity to look forward to now.
Two thumbs way up for this comment. The only thing I can think of is that Lee took over ABC right around that time. But def, their chemistry took a nose dive with S7.
And, so agree that Laure and Taylor bring have def raised the bar. They don’t even have to touch each other and they sizzle together…
The only reason Callie and Mark had chemistry was because they were both loopy goofballs that couldn’t be taken seriously. If you think about the transformation of Callie over the yrs, think initial dark emo serious hair chewer to lovesick pitiful scorned spouse to bisexual awakened child to slapstick comedy goofball with Mark Sloan to finally somewhat mature with Arizona Robbins. The very fact that she’s resorting to blabbing her and her wife’s problems to the world shows regression back to Her silly George days. Callie has always been a fav of mine due to her comedy relief but as far as relationships go, she should only be married to medicine because I think she’s incapable of taking a person seriously. I cringed when she revoked Arizona’s bathroom mishap to Bailey and now she’s going to shoot her mouth off about her struggling PTSD wife’s issues. That’s not love, thats ridiculousness. And I used to be a hardcore Calzona shipper and a part of me still is but my faith is gone.
You read my mind! Callie should not involve the rest of the hospital in their marriage problems. And that line to Bailey about cleaning pee of the floor, that was horrible. I’m glad that Arizona did not hear it. Callie said it was a joke, but you can clearly see that it really wasn’t. I watched it again yesterday, and it made me sad.
Lauren Boswell is a freaking joke. And if by “chemistry” between her and Arizona you mean, “the lights went out and lightening was flashing” – then sure, there was chemistry. Thanks to the atmosphere and special effects! She is not needed or wanted on the show. Hope she stays far far away – go to some other hospital and break up another marriage.
Callie and Arizona have seemed “off” because they were meant to… season 9, and even season 7 until after the crash, they were going through some heavy crap. They were, however, at their very best in season 6; season 8 as well only they didn’t really have much to do. I think they are going to be explosive in season 10.
After EVERYTHING these two have been through together and for each other, how can Shonda not have them end up together?! It would be ridiculous. Maybe, MAYBE, if Mark was still alive, I could see trouble in paradise. Let’s be real, no one has ever loved Callie – understood Callie – like Mark. But he’s a non-factor now ( :( ) and, most importantly, I do think Callie and Arizona “work” – they just haven’t been given the right material lately. But much like Meredith and Derek, these two have got to be destined to be together. Especially, if anything, this late in the game with series. You don’t build 5 years of a relationship just to piss it away. Shonda, get your head out of your ass!